Rev Wright talking about black churches being misunderstood got me
thinking about things. It has me wondering how we can promote
understanding and tolerance of people's religions and ethnicities. I
feel that they only way it can be done is through a
gathering,discussion,education.


I was wondering wouldn't it be a good idea to have some type of
religious convention so that all churches,religious organizations
could participate and interact with one another and discuss
religious,ideological differences and maybe learn that they have some
similarities that give them some common ground.
They could also have some debate about their beliefs,practices too
Also invite the religious leaders and others to set foot in their
congregations and to observe what goes on... learn to understand
different religious believers.
They could hold the religious convention every year.
There can be an annual survey about people's religious
beliefs,practices that also include matters dealing with tolerance.
They could answer questions that include how many of them know people
of different religions,how many people read books about different
religions including the actual books pertaining to religion like the
Bible in regards to Christianity,the Koran in regards to Islam....ask
questions about interfaith friendships/dating/relationships/marriages.
Ask questions about religious bigotry,discrimination whether they
were victims or perpetrators.
During the religious convention, there can be pamphlets about
religious,and so people can read about other's religions...they can do
surverys on them to see what they approve and disapprove of .
In schools, there could be elective classes on religion. I feel that
religion is very important subject to learn in school....because it
seems religion dominates American culture to the point that all
religious beliefs influence our politics. There could be field trips
to religious institutions to actually experience customs,traditions.
I also believe that we shouldn't just study the good stuff....but also
the bad stuff including persecutions and how religions can oppress
people and limit their rights.


Now this same thing can be done in regards to ethnic groups.

Their their differences and their similarities.....learn about the
similarities to find common ground.
There could be a multiethnic,multicultural week.....where people of
all ethnic groups get together, teach about their cultures and way of
life even included various cuisine. There could be
multicultural,multiethnic exhibits. There could be an annual survey
in regards to ethnic relations including questions like how many
people know people of certain ethnic groups, how many people go to
gatherings,functions that involve different ethnic groups, things like
food..
also ask things about interethnic friendships/dating/relationships.
also ask negative stuff about experiences of ethnic
bigotry,discrimination. Ask about fears,resentments in regards to
ethnic groups....I also feel that questions of affirmative
action,reparations can be part of the survey. I also believe that
ethnic stereotypes need to be addressed during the survey to see how
many people believe in them.



These surveys can be done anonymously too.



I feel empathy and tolerance can only be done through actual
experiencing.

I feel that you have to walk a mile in a person's moccasins to
understand them.



That's just my view.



Raymond
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Raymond
  • Ln
    Ln
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    Folks are gathering and working as you suggested. I'm just not sure that their message/work is being covered by corporate media.

    The Council for a Parliament of the World's Religions was created to cultivate harmony among the world's religious and spiritual communities and foster their engagement with the world and its guiding institutions in order to achieve a peaceful, just, and sustainable world.

    I know about it because their Parliament was held near where I live, in Barcelona in 2004.

    www.parliamentofreligions.org/
    • I think the Rev has stirred tome things up. A friend of mine sent me this article which I thought was interesting all on its own


      Subject: A black columnist sees Obama differently than media portrayal



      Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun

      It's an amazing time to be alive in America . We're in a year of firsts in this Presidential Election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.

      We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.

      The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.

      Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.

      Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs. Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential front runner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

      Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America . But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial "beauty."

      Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.

      Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on "the rich." How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.

      The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of "bringing America together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.

      But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for President. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.

      It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our President in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.
      • In regards to Ken Blackwel's thoughts:

        <<president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief>>
        This is the problem with the Conservatives, they are in constant fear of made-up enemies. They think the president needs to be in war posture first and foremost...while ignoring the real peril American's face every day.. preventable causes of death and hardship.. like car accidents, work health hazards, exposure to chemicals in our daily lifes ( 1 out of 8 women will be diagonized with breast cancer in their lives; 1 in 2 or so men will develop prostate cancer in their lives)..and natural disasters, but I guess this is not as sexy as the lurking "other" human who they fear.

        <<How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes.>> Why is paying for the care of our elderlies such a loathsome act? Isn't this what a compassionate conservative should do? or would he rather see a higher number in his stock market gamblings?

        <<How to fix Medicare? Prescription drugs? Raise taxes.>> what do Conservatives answer? make profit from old people who can affort it. .the other ones? ..they will let them die because it's cost effective and should not belong in a capitalist system.

        <<His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.>>
        this is the problem with Conservatives, they nurture the greedy in individuals and discourage groups comunal spirit..
        what is wrong with a government of the people, by the people and for the people?
        • Ln
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          That article by Ken Blackwell was interesting to me because my mom, an Obama supporter, keeps telling me how the evil Republican media machine (where is Carl Rove these days? On that station of "fair and balanced news") is gonna take Obama down through this whole thing with Reverend Wright.

          After watching Wright interviewed by Bill Moyers,

          www.pbs.org/moyers/journ...08/watch.html

          I was very moved by him. Then I was very saddened to hear Obama denying what Wright has said about the US helping proliforate AIDS and America being terrorist state....etc.
          I guess Obama has to say that, but Wright is right-in my book. The sermons that the sound bites have been taken from are amazing, I totally agree with what he is saying. Among other things the US can't expect to terrorize countries all over the world and not expect folks to want to get back at America.

          I don't know anything about the NY Sun, but I would guess from the author of this article that they are a corporate owned conservative rag, hence an article dedicated to fear mongering.

          I began to question the author's stance when he called McCain a" Freedom Fighter", if he's elected the US will surely continue to tumble-Rome is falling.

          On Free trade the Author says it has" made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago". Do Americans really buy into that?

          Free Trade may have sounded like a good idea in it's time. It has worked to put much of the domestic labour force out of work and turn Americans into mindless consumers. The wealthiest ones on the planet, for now. And that is only the top ??percent. While, years later Katrina victims are waiting for housing.


          Anyway, I know I'm preaching to the choir in this tribe.
          • Wright was pretty much right in most ways, and what I didn't agree with, was much ado about nothing. The fact that Obama has renounced Wright is pretty much symptomatic about what the problem is with politics, particularly American politics. Politicians, especially the higher levels pretty much abandon a lot to get where they want to go, just to get where they want to go. This is what really has turned me off of the whole political system. Politicians are not compromising for the political base, they are compromising to both the corporate media, especially Fox, and for the corporate support.
            • Middle American voters may place Obama in a catch 22.....having backed away, he might now project someone who will not support his chosen 'family'--right or wrong. I've no recollection of a candidate diluting himself in such a public manner before--and, of course, we are assured that the secretive suppression of minorites would be allowed to continue even under an Obama administration. If he had stood his ground, stood on principle and used this as an opening for our nation to explore and investigate the likes of how heroin got into Harlem a hundred years ago, the level of "change" would have been almost Jeffersonian. Now........well, Barack has jumped the shark.......
  • In case you missed this Bill Moyers commentary about Rev. Wright...

    www.youtube.com/watch
    • Ln
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      Ok, so all this attention about Rev. Wright in relation to Obama. What about John Hagee endorsing McCain? Talk about angry white man!!!
      I found this collection of Hagee quotes for folks to share with whoever....

      The Democratic National Committee has released the following round-up of Hagee's statements:

      Hagee on Hurricane Katrina "All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that." [NPR Fresh Air, 9/18/06]


      Hagee on Islamic Beliefs
      Fresh Air host Terry Gross asked if Hagee believed that "all Muslims have a mandate to kill Christians and Jews," to which Hagee replied, "Well, the Quran teaches that. Yes, it teaches that very clearly." [NPR Fresh Air, 9/18/06]

      Hagee on African-Americans
      The San Antonio Express-News reported that Hagee was going to "meet with black religious leaders privately at an unspecified future date to discuss comments he made in his newsletter about a 'slave sale,' an East Side minister said Wednesday." The Express-News reported:

      "Hagee, pastor of the 16,000-member Cornerstone Church, last week had announced a 'slave sale' to raise funds for high school seniors in his church bulletin, 'The Cluster.'

      "The item was introduced with the sentence 'Slavery in America is returning to Cornerstone" and ended with "Make plans to come and go home with a slave." [San Antonio Express-News 3/7/96]

      Hagee on Catholicism
      "Most readers will be shocked by the clear record of history linking Adolf Hitler and the Roman Catholic Church in a conspiracy to exterminate the Jews." [Jerusalem Countdown by John Hagee]

      Hagee on Women
      "Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist." [God's Profits: Faith, Fraud and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters, Sarah Posner]

      "[T]he feminist movement today is throwing off authority in rebellion against God's pattern for the family." ["Bible Positions on Political Issues," John Hagee]

      Hagee on LGBT Americans
      "The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment." [NPR Fresh Air, 9/18/06]

      Hagee on Iran
      "The coming nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty," Hagee wrote [in 2006] in the Pentecostal magazine Charisma. "Israel and America must confront Iran's nuclear ability and willingness to destroy Israel with nuclear weapons. For Israel to wait is to risk committing national suicide." [The Nation, 8/8/2006]

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